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    Samantha Loveless

    I literally am just starting to venture into D&D. I just got a new job where my coworkers do it every Friday night after we close. An old friend of mine also apparently plays. I really like the option here of buying the books digitally and having them on my phone to read up on while trying to learn right now. My only draw back though is trying to figure out how I play with some of my other friends online. I'm seeing things like Roll20 and Fantasy Grounds, but all of them require me to pay again for digital content I already have here, and at this point to play with them I'd need to buy the content all over again.

    I really hope this feature of a D&D Beyond tabletop option comes to pass, or even just a team up with Roll20 where things I've bought here register there for me to play online. I'm not too picky at this point, I just want to be able to play with a friend I know to teach me because I have no idea what I'm doing.

    So far though, I really prefer the style and features here, just hate the fact I can't also play with my friends online through the same site.

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    John Sweeney

    VTT is a feature that would turn me from a free user who's bought a PHB and is thinking about springing for Xanathar's and/or Mordenkainen's, into a subscribed user buying at least one module/year, and probably also a DDB Twitch streamer as well. It's not that I don't spend a lot of money on DnD stuff (I own all the core books, most of the supplemental rulebooks, and several of the campaign books), I just don't spend it on DDB. I can't justify to myself buying a campaign book on DDB when I'll need to turn around and pay for it again on Roll20 to run it there, and having a physical version is nicer/more convenient for my kitchen table game, but if I had a decent VTT here, I'd probably ditch roll20 altogether.

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    Chris Maldonado

    This is certainly something that I would very much appreciate.  I am already heavily invested in DDB as this is the easiest D&D service out there.  I have loved all the new content and updates that have come out, including the digital character sheets.  This just sounds like the next likely step that should come to be.  One of the hardest part of my D&D campaign is that I have people who live in totally different areas and its difficult to wrangle them to my house to continue our story.  I already was able to convince all my players to sign up for DDB and use the character sheet and it has eased the transition of many of them into RPGTT gaming.  I really hope this comes to be and would be willing to sign up for the highest tier so that I can host all my players whether subscribed or not.

     

    Keep up the good work DDB.  I truly hope this becomes a feature.

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    Jungi Lee

    Please consider prioritizing this for so many DMs! I mean it doesn't have to be that amazing or complicated. Just something simple and functional would be good enough. I will (yes, it's a promise) buy the legendary bundle and 1 year subscription in a heartbeat, once this gets added to the DDB, and I am sure there are more people who agrees with me. As a new DM trying to figure out how to DM online, I really want to invest in one platform and DDB will be undoubtedly the best platform to host online D&D sessions if it had VTT and many tools that it already offers.

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    Deathtone28

    I see that this is planned, but is on the long term development column with no notes accounting for progress. Considering the amount of upvotes on this, should this become a higher priority for the developers? I know that the business analysis portion of this would take a long time and even finding the LOE can't be established until you really understand what people are wanting from a VTT, but any kind of official updates regarding priorities on these highly voted topics would go far for showing that the Dev team has heard our pleas. 

    To everyone seeing this post,
    something that would help the dev team move forward on this would be to make sure that you aren't just saying "yeah, this would be great", but rather saying what you would like to see. Give some examples of things that you like from other VTTs like Roll20 or FG and then give some things that you don't like. Even providing ideas for functionality that you would like to see could do wonders for the progression of this effort.

     

    I personally would like to see line-of-sight functionality with fog of war in such a way that players can move their characters around a corner and it will reveal the room, but also keep shown what they have already explored. But if they leave a room with a monster, they are unable to see that monster until it is in line of sight again. I hope I explained that well.

    Thanks!

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    David

    I agree that a public API makes sense as a higher priority. In the meantime, if you haven't checked out the "Beyond 20" extension for Firefox and Chrome, it's pretty great. Integrates DDB with Roll20 and Foundry VTT.

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    David

    I wouldn't be in favor of that. Roll 20 and Fantasy Grounds' technology is nowhere near as polished and user-friendly as the stuff DDB builds. For me, the whole point of there being a DDB VTT would be because if they built it, it would be built to their quality standards.

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    Craig Turner

    I would love a VVT from D&D Beyond. If it could be a slick as their character sheets, then I would be sold.

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    Adam Vinson

    to be honest i kind of see what you are saying but to be honest none of the existing vtt are really up to snuff either limited in functionality  or not user friendly.  Don't get me wrong i have seen some up and coming projects that look interesting such as https://talespire.com/ but none of these services are here and we dont know if they will actually come to the public.

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    Ryan Rusch

    I agree with Adam. While Roll20 and Fantasy Grounds are fine for now, I would like to have all my resources in one place. The other VTT's work for people because they may use different rule sets but having a D&D Beyond dedicated VTT that already has the character sheets, rules, and purchases integrated would be much more efficient for me as a DM. Right now in order to get a character sheet from D&D Beyond into Roll20 or Fantasy Grounds you either need to re-build it or use a .json file and 3rd party API script to move it. 

     

    I am heavily invested in D&D Beyond and would like it to be my one stop shop for all things D&D. I would gladly pay a higher monthly subscription for a half way decent VTT that integrates already purchased content and character sheets from your campaigns. 

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    Omair Quraishi

    I agree that 3rd party compendium content can be a deal-breaker for some.  Now the DnDBeyond.com team has never said no to 3rd party content.  Just said that the legal stuff is more challenging around it.  I'm betting once the source management controls they are building are in place they'll be in a way better position to offer 3rd party content.  

    Thing is for the uninitiated it needs to be super simple when making purchases knowing what is and isn't 3rd party content.  Look at Matt Mercer's Blood Hunter.  Just that one class cause considerable confusion.  + Programming in 3rd party content rules?  That's no small feat either.   They'd need a dedicated "3rd party content integration team" to go one at a time connect 3rd party content in.

    Not impossible, worthwhile?  For sure.  Likely, they need more building blocks before they can do that.  But VTT that's pure official 5e.  I'd happily switch my Roll20 Pro Sub money to DBB if they got it working!

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    Lallen

    I would love to see them at least offer integrations to the virtual tabletop. If they don't build one and just integrate (or if they can build one with full 3D playable battle maps in both digital and in-person maps that would fantastic.

    I've been drooling over the talespire kickstarter and thought that would be amazing if DnD beyond integrated with that.

    If the ruleset, books, character sheets could all be integrated into the tabletop (both a GM and a player perspective) with a player map able to be split to a second monitor for in-person gaming would just be perfect. (Think of fantasy grounds, merged with talespire, merged with DnD beyond.

     

     

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    The Polyvangelist

    On top of that, Roll20 is ALOT more than just D&D. I could see a collaboration (maybe?) But likely they will build their own system. That's what all of the various updates are leaning towards. Everything is linked and easily found within its own system. The liklihood is that they are building and testing out the smaller things before integrating the rest. 

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    Clint Blough

    I feel like this is the only thing that DnDB is sorely missing. Everything else is great IMO. Sure double buying content can be a drag, but i get it. 

    Having this as a one-stop-shop for running an online campaign during this pandy would be so good. (minus discord for comms, but no need to reinvent that wheel)

    A dungeon map with char integration is dreamy. 

     

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    Nicholas Papadakis

    This would make DDB the absolute hands down winner in DnD online resources.

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    LP Gaming

    If this was a feature I would never have to use Roll20 again. DnD Beyond is better at literally everything, just need to add that virtual table top.

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    SevenZark (Black Lives Matter!)

    I would love to see either this, or an API the VTTs can use to bring over content purchased on D&D Beyond, as well as PC data! The VTTs character-management interfaces are awful. But even more importantly, I think we're all getting re-purchase fatigue. Why should I have to buy the same book three times (once in print, once in D&D Beyond, once in Roll20)? Sure this is awfully convenient for the various companies but it really sucks for the customer.

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    Amata

    TLDR: there are plenty of reasons a person might want a VTT specific to D&DBeyond, rather than one of the many vtt options out there. Until DDB has an official vtt of their own - I highly recommend the browser extension "AboveVTT" which provides VTT functionality from within the DDB website. 

     

    (1) Support this Feature Request
    a VTT like Roll20 or Foundry, etc. tend to be worth the subscription price if you are playing content from a variety of publishers. They offer integration or plug-ins with sourcebook vendors like DDB, but also support other systems like Pathfinder or World of Darkness, etc. These are great services to provide for a broad swath of the industry target demographic (TTRPG players). But some gamers out here only play D&D.

     

    (2) A Personal Example
    For example, right now I only need (and only want) services that cater to WotC / D&D settings and adventures. My party is far-flung, so we use a virtual table. I want my subscription $$ to mostly go directly to features and products that are relevant to me & my group & our needs. We've all agreed to use DDB for access to content - the more things "outside" DDB that we have to also access, the more parts that can break along the way. We don't need support for other gaming systems or content. And we don't need a huge marketplace with user content like tokens or homebrew maps or dynamic lighting prefabs, etc. All we need, we get from DDB. 

    And, tbh, one of our players is a technoclutz. Every time I have to tell him to go somewhere other than DDB and load a new thing or access a bot on Discord... the harder and harder it gets to keep him invested in the game. And it takes for-ev-er to walk him through any extra bells or whistles. That's time we could be gaming. 

     

    (3) Potential Money-maker for DDB
    These are all reasons that an in-house D&DBeyond VTT would be amazing, and definitely have an audience. I could even see it generating a new subscription tier in-between "Hero" and "DM". Something like "Adventurer" that is everything on Hero tier, plus access to the DDB VTT. And, obviously, the highest tier would also include VTT access, maybe even the ability to share access to any of their campaigns (like they currently do with sourcebooks). 

     

    (4) Use AboveVTT While We Wait 
    FWIW, I have been using a browser extension called "AboveVTT" that integrates inside the DDB website. It basically functions as a DDB VTT and it has all the features that other VTTs provide, all from the comfort of the DDB website. You access it by going into your campaign and clicking a VTT button that is "added" to the webpage. The guy that's spearheading AboveVTT development is on patreon; I highly suggest looking into this browser extension while we continue to apply pressure to DDB to get on with it. 

     

    Other than being a satisfied user and a patreon supporter, I am not otherwise connected to AboveVTT. I was not asked to promote or shill for the extension, and I don't receive any perks or rewards for promoting AboveVTT. I just think that it is currently the best way to access a VTT "internal" to DDB. It provides the kind of functionality that people who support a DDB VTT are asking for - so it seems an obvious stop-gap until DDB creates their own. 

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    Ronald Turner

    This would be an amazing feature

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    Phanoko

    If I can also make a suggestion.  More and more tables are using Chromebooks / Chrombox / Chromebits to run their tabletops.  They're crazy cheap, secure and work perfect for this.  Please keep this web based.

     

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    Mark Bunney

    I too would love to see this.  I'm a returning D&D player having not played for many years.  After trying to find a home game and failing I've joined a VTT as this is the only way I can play.  With that in mind I would love to see VTT integration with D&D beyond at the level and quantity that the current content is at.  It would just be so much better to have this all integrated in one place and it couldn't come soon enough for me.

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    ETL

    waiting on an all-in-one solution before I spend any money.....

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    Billy Eason

    I think that a DDB public API makes sense to have as a higher priority than a VTT. This would allow easier integration into third party tools that are already working on VTTs . So I can import in my ddb content into these third party table top systems.  

    This would allow more time to before DDB create their own VTT.  Collect more data and be more inclusive of the larger dnd community to use what already exists today. 

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    bmg50barrett

    I would pay good money to have a campaign/encounter/story management platform in the same place as d&d beyond. Honestly, the number 1 reason that I don't purchase content on Beyond is because I'll just have to reintegrate it into Roll20 later and do all the work. Beyond has more polished and nicer tools than roll20, but roll20 exists as a campaign platform.

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    Alexandru Catalin

    The sooner the better. I am coming daily on the forums to see if there is progress on the VTT, i personally cant wait for it to be released. 

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    Mark McCollum

    Yes, please please please integrate with Talespire!!!

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    carl engstrom

    I will add here.  I'm  moving my campaign to virtual and R20 is a pain.  There is no way I'm going to rebuy the content that i already have in book and on DDB.  I will however, buy modules and other stuff on DDB and focus my spending here if we can get a VTT.  as for how you do it...I would only make some humble suggestions. 1) start simple with a VTT that I can import my art into or community art.  2) make the interface components that you add work very well before growing. 3) Make it usable for a physical game with table top TV or all virtual. 4) i wouldn't concentrate on shared audio or video since most ppl will use discord or zoom or something like that.  As you build out your API, you could also maybe partner with another company to help you develop that part of the interface then merge it.  Lastly, just a thanks.  You did a great job so far on you releases and the quality of the content.  

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    Adam Vinson

    the talespire beta just got released and it is easy to use and has a lot of potential, but it got me thinking i would like to see DDB integration for the time being until they can focus on making a vtt of their own

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    Vis S

    Jacob Bell: Wizards of the Coast is owned by an entirely separate company from D&D Beyond. (DDB is owned by Fandom; WotC is owned by Hasbro.) D&D Beyond is just an officially licensed partner of WotC.

    Though I agree that DDB would definitely benefit a lot from making a VTT, there's a lot of work that goes into it.

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    Phanoko

    This looks pretty promising, it's also posted in the forums but thought some cross-posting would be good.  I used the chrome plugin the author also has on a game this weekend and it worked really well. ( I'm not the author )

    https://encounters.4sh.dev/

    She/He has added maps and other stuff, it'll be interesting to see where this goes.

    This is the chrome plugin, you can see it just pulls in the general info like the tampermonkey ( could be the same author /shrug ) add-on.  My only issue is with the AC, you can see some of the AC is really wrong.

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